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Post by emily on Mar 2, 2008 19:37:16 GMT -5
any suggestions on how to correct a horse from kicking other horses while riding.
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Post by ☮Shawna☮ on Mar 2, 2008 20:12:15 GMT -5
3 year old? wow that seems a little young to me to be being used in lessons and such? maybe that is just me.
well the attitude he is having towards other horses may have something to do with his age.
when Windy gets bitchy like that i pull her in a tight circle a couple times until she gets her head on straight again. Coming from a person that rides a horse that hates other horses.....i keep a pretty safe distance between me and the other horses as well to avoid any future problems...........
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Post by emily on Mar 2, 2008 21:05:42 GMT -5
oh no hes not used in lessons like hardcore just every once in awhile all her other horses were getting used plus it was only at a walk and this person knew what she was doing yeah hes young so i'm not expecting him to be perfect this is just a really bad habbit he just started up and wanted to know if anyone else has done anything different
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Post by jennaj on Mar 2, 2008 21:07:10 GMT -5
Its nothing that like YOU can do really.
training a horse isnt like something ONLY you do. Its gonna take time, and with a horse with problems...and t he fact hes only 3 yrs old...he shouldnt be a lesson horse, just my opinion ;-)
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Post by emily on Mar 2, 2008 21:30:17 GMT -5
no. hes used every once 3/4 months with a good rider..and I modified the post yes hes 3 hes gonna be a goof but I'd like to try to make this habbit better before it gets worse..I know its gonna take time I'm just wondering if anyone has tryed anything different.
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Post by rikkiiiii ! on Mar 2, 2008 23:47:17 GMT -5
when he starts to get an attitude, make him turn or do something different to get his mind off of the other horse and onto paying attention to you  and when he starts to feel like he's gonna kick move him forward like push him make him work harder than he was before, that's probably the only way to "punish him" from kicking you dont want to hit him for it, it might just give him more of an attitude i'd just watch him and it he goes to make a move make him work, change you diagonal ect. edit because i forgot something |
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Post by Candace ♥'s Mitt-nacht on Mar 3, 2008 10:17:31 GMT -5
i'd do what rikki says
no matter the horses age, he shouldn't be kicking at all. you're realy going to have to anticapte when he is going to kick, and prevent it. when you feel he's going to kick, make him move his butt over. you won't be able to really punish him for kicking. if you just keep preventing it, i think it will just fade away. but you HAVE to be on your game for this. you cna't just try and prevent him every once in a while, and always correct him for not kicking. you need to be proactive..
JMO
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Post by emily on Mar 3, 2008 14:59:12 GMT -5
I have been doing all that I think the main thing with him is just keep him moving forward and being positive and yeah I know I'm not going to just sit there and let him pull that shit I never do thats just asking for more trouble. Candace like you said i think its just going to fade hes just being a goof. but thanks guys!
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Post by Candace ♥'s Mitt-nacht on Mar 3, 2008 16:05:39 GMT -5
no problem just remember to be proactive and get his butt working and his mind on YOU (not the horse behind him  ) and you should do pretty good! aha |
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Post by Rebecca on Mar 3, 2008 17:54:03 GMT -5
does he pin his ears and kick, or just kick because he knows he can get away with it?
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Post by Jessi on Mar 3, 2008 23:14:13 GMT -5
Make sure you keep him forward and listening to you -- the key to most problems is to keep them going forward. If you notice him trying to kick or hesitate when you're near another horse, push his hind end over, and get him listening to you, change direction, randomly throw in a circle or serpentine, pick up the canter... anything to get his mind on YOU and off of kicking the other horse. If he actually succeeds in kicking the other horse, get him forward and make him WORK like he's never worked before. If you keep doing this every time he goes to/ actually kicks another horse, he's going to associate it with ... shit, if I do this, I'm going to get my ass kicked, and gradually it will *well, should*stop. The key is repetition and consistent working..if there are a few of you riding him, tell everyone who rides him so that everyone does the same thing when he tries to kick while they're riding. It's not going to work if someone only gets after him once in a while. Just make sure he knows that if he tries to pull anything, you WILL get after him, smack him with the crop//use more leg and get him forward and working twice as hard. But, obviously, you don't want anyone's horse to get kicked either, so try to warn people in the ring that he kicks.
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Post by Jessi on Mar 3, 2008 23:19:05 GMT -5
With Sonny, it wasn't kicking.. but he would buck hard every time I asked for the canter, so whenever he did that, I'd use a lot of leg and smack him with the crop, and make him pick up the gallop and when he calmed down, I'd canter him a few laps, let him trot, then ask for the canter again.. and kept repeating until he stopped bucking when I asked for the canter.. when he didn't buck, I'd only make him canter one lap and then either move onto something else, or let him be done for the day-- obv. this is a different issue, but go about it in a similar way. Reward him when he listens, but make sure you get after him EVERY time he does something wrong
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Post by emily on Mar 4, 2008 11:06:50 GMT -5
yes I always do get after him and I do reward him when hes listening but thanks jessi you always give good advice!!!! haha even tho I already knew that stuff
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Post by Lindsay* . The Perfect Fit . on Mar 4, 2008 20:29:58 GMT -5
First off, I'd say to stop with this instinctive "pull him into a circle" nonsense.
If the horse has time to pin its ears, and kick another horse, he isn't focusing his full attention on the rider.
You need to take the horse out with a friend to help. Keep him busy, make him come into the bridle, use his hind end, work on some haunches in /shoulders in, while working on these exercises, tell your friend to come by. Start at a distance, and slowly get closer. Dont instantly throw them into a circle, that may give them the thought "hey, i get out of work when i do this." After the horse passes and if a safe distance away, praise him. Always keep him moving. There is ALWAYS something that you can be doing to enhance his training, instead of just enjoying the ride (ESPECIALLY on a 3 year old). Its going to take time, and it may not be fully cured, but the more the horse is focused on you, the less he is focused on everything else going on around him...
Another thing that I am a firm believer in.. If youre working on something at a trot CONTINUE AT A TROT. DO NOT CHANGE SPEEDS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING ELSE. When Levi bucks when I'm trotting, his ass BETTER come out of that buck at a trot. If I'm cantering, same idea. (BTW, cantering is physically easier for a horse than the trot is... so making them go faster is not necessarily making him work harder).
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Post by emily on Mar 4, 2008 21:37:06 GMT -5
yeah he started this just on saturday I asked a friend to ride at the same time since I didnt want like a beginner getting kicked and yeah I get what ur saying about not changing speeds because then if he thinks hes doing something bad hes gonna think omg i better move my ass and like take off or lunge forward I'v always brought him back to the pace he was at...
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and when he starts to feel like he's gonna kick move him forward like push him make him work harder than he was before, that's probably the only way to "punish him" from kicking you dont want to hit him for it, it might just give him more of an attitude i'd just watch him and it he goes to make a move make him work, change you diagonal ect. 
) and you should do pretty good! aha
